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Post by davidh on Feb 22, 2013 9:47:31 GMT -5
It was never a excuse and not acceptable action. It is morally not right and illegal fact to kill people even though it was their own revenge. I would have found another way to revenge such as taking over king position later in the future
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Post by RegXD on Feb 24, 2013 6:33:20 GMT -5
I think hamlet use the reason that the ghost told him so to kill claudius. Because hamlet can tell everyone that he saw his father ghost spirit and was told to kill claudius because he murdered him. Which something that people wouldn't believe in the first place. so he has to keep it to himself even though it was said out loud.
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Post by kiranshoaib on Feb 24, 2013 6:58:17 GMT -5
I think Hamlet "wants" to take revenge for his dad's murder. Before he met the ghost, he had already fallen under the category of a broken family and he was already quite angry and depressed at his mother re-marrying his uncle within a short period of time, right after his father's death. So, on top of that, the ghost as his father, adds up one more reason in the list of hating Claudious, which has given him a reason to murder him now. That is why he wants to believe the ghost and murder him. He was looking for a reason to take revenge from the begining anyway, now that he has one, certain or uncertain, he simply want to do it.
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Post by hannahs on Feb 24, 2013 8:16:00 GMT -5
I don't think it was an excuse because I don't really know if Hamlet wants to kill his uncle or not. I think he's more pressured to kill him because he feels this sense of responsibility to take revenge for his father since the ghost wants him to.
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Post by joannekim on Feb 24, 2013 10:52:22 GMT -5
I think Hamlet is just giving an excuse, not a reason, for killing Claudius because murder cannot be justified. In the first place, Hamlet does not have any specific evidence that Claudius killed his father. And even if Claudius did, Hamlet should not kill him-no one has right to judge and execute another person. It seems like Hamlet killed Claudius out of anger and hatred. The beginning of the play shows that he suspected his uncle to be the murderer in the first place and despised himself and everything around him. Revenge is just an excuse for murdering Claudius.
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Post by elijahlee on Feb 27, 2013 0:29:30 GMT -5
I don't think that it is a good idea to kill Claudius. All Hamlet wants to do is satisfy his depression and anger. But, in the end, killing Claudius would have no effect and would eventually harm Hamlet more then it would benefit him, because of the backlash and implications of murdering a king.
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Post by sojounggg on Mar 17, 2013 10:49:31 GMT -5
i dont thhink it was an excuse. if it was an excuse it will just make hamelt look like a mad person.
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Post by sarahlee2 on Mar 27, 2013 22:33:52 GMT -5
I think it was more of a reason that Hamlet planned to kill Claudius. It doesn't make sense that he used his revenge for his father's death as an excuse because he didn't plan on killing Claudius before his death. There is no mention of Hamlet not liking Claudius even before his father's death so it's not an excuse. His reason was that he wanted to get revenge for what Claudius did to his father.
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Post by junaen0416 on Apr 3, 2013 8:03:04 GMT -5
Murder is not the right solution to serve justice. Look what happened in the end, death, that's what happened. Hamlet did not gain anything at all. Instead he just got served by his own actions. It wasn't any excuse, it was just dumb. All he wanted to accomplish was to take revenge on Claudius for what he did and he did and in return he got killed.
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Post by juliekim on Apr 6, 2013 4:01:31 GMT -5
I agree with Sang. I think it was a great excuse for him to murder Claudius. People would have thought it would actually be fair and reasonable for Hamlet to kill someone that wronged him so badly.
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Post by minchoi0923 on Apr 6, 2013 16:04:04 GMT -5
Like Sageda said, I think there is no "reason" for killing anybody unless you were trying to protect yourself. Hamlet was instructed by the spirit of his father that he has to kill Claudius for revenge. Now Hamlet had two options: to either ignore it or accept it. Hamlet chose to believe in the spirit and chose to murder Claudius. And according to my own beliefs, that is still murder and it's not a good reason.
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Post by elijahlee on Apr 7, 2013 9:23:12 GMT -5
It was an excuse. There was no real reason to take the situation into your own hands and kill a man. It sounds like he had a very teenager driven dream of visions of setting things straight by himself. He could have also found much more less damaging ways to deal with the situation.
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Post by sarahlee4 on Apr 7, 2013 9:29:11 GMT -5
I dont think Hamlet killing Claudius was just. I think.that there is never a right time to murder someone. I believe that killing someone is totally different from self defense by the way. Anyways, I think that Hamlets reasoning of killing Claudius was.not right. Theres a saying that says that there is always a second chance for committers ofsin.
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Post by tha0ism on Apr 11, 2013 9:41:13 GMT -5
Actually, i think hamlet’s revenge is an excuse as well. Hamlet didnt even have actual evidence of claudious killing hamlet except from the story which was told by the ghost. And like we talked in class, everything is like "uncertain" here. We arent even sure that the there is a real ghost or not. But i personally think that even if Claudius had killed hamlet, taking a revenge on him wouldnt make ant differences. Its not like his father is going to come back or anything. His father is death and the king of denmark is now Claudius and he will just take to stick with it and deal with it himself
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