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Post by jessicashim2013 on Dec 9, 2012 8:11:57 GMT -5
In the end of the play, Nora decides to live a life for herself. She wanted to learn about the world and live independently, so she decides to leave her family. This was unexpected and it surprised me. If I was Nora, I would not have been able to leave. It was hard for a women to earn money without a men in the 19th centruy. I would have been afraid of how the society would look at me..
How about you guys? If you were Nora would you leave your family? If not, what other way would you try to live with Torvald?
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Post by davidh on Dec 9, 2012 8:49:52 GMT -5
Well I would have done the same. I will not live with a person who only pretends to love me. Torvald is clearly not respecting Nora and It should be hard for her to live in a place where she is treated like a child even though she is all grown up. Torvald is keep underestimating Nora and for that, she is hurt. The main focus for Torvald is his job and his reputation. As soon as he was about to lose all of them, he went crazy and blamed Nora. This is not something that Nora has to risk in her live. I Think she made a good decision.
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Post by seongrae on Dec 9, 2012 9:32:57 GMT -5
I might decide the same as what Nora did in the play. I can’t just live with a person I lied to. At that time, as husband took control over his wife, Nora might not be treated as normal or before when Torvald knew that. I would rather live independently than living with a husband who do not treat me as before. However, if I have to choose to not do the same as Nora, I might tell everything in truth in careful way and make excuse about it because at that time, like Mrs. Linde, it is hard for women to live in the society alone.
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Post by franicaza95 on Dec 9, 2012 10:29:05 GMT -5
i feel the same, because first of all like we have discussed before at the time, women were very dpendetn on their husband and also the views of society on someone is usually very important. i personally wouldnt be able to leave my family, as in family i am referring to my kids. the main reason would be becasue the children dont have any fault of adult mastakes so why do they have to suffer?...if i thought that finding out what life really is and wanting to find out how to be independent, would really be importatn for me than i wouold do it but i wouldnt involve and make my kids suffer. but i would totally agree to leave torvald.
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Post by cathysjun on Dec 9, 2012 13:31:39 GMT -5
Although I wanted to have left, I wouldn't be able to have left.. Rationally speaking, it was extremely hard to earn money independently at that time. I think this has a connection with today's society as well. If there is a conflict like this women can leave their husbands easily. Because it easier for women to get jobs and live indepently the divorce rate increased. Anyways I personally wouldn't have been able to leave because of the pressure within the society, which is very different from our contemporary society.
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Post by sageda on Dec 10, 2012 10:27:19 GMT -5
I think I would first try to see if Torvald would change even though it seems like a slim chance. I'd give it a shot for my kids because I wouldn't be able to live with the thought that I abandoned my children. I don't think I would be as brave as Nora. Abandoning all that I ever knew. Plus, I'm really forgiving. I think I would've stayed with Torvald out of pity. But if the situation didn't improve at all then I would've just left.
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Post by minjaeyang on Dec 14, 2012 21:43:51 GMT -5
If I were Nora, I would confess that I had lied and find the solution together. First of all, It is important to be responsible of your family. Nora has three kids and it is irresponsible to leave her family like that. Secondly, Nora had lied in the first place for the good of her husband. Because Nora had no bad intentions against her husband, she should tell him the truth instead of running away.
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Post by alexkoo on Dec 15, 2012 6:28:02 GMT -5
I would definitively leave my family if i were Nora. I mean I would leave with my children. It was a smart move for Nora to leave Torvald. I personally think that Nora should have been rewarded for what she did for her husband. Torvald should have acknowledge that even though Nora did not tell her husband or lied, it was all for her husband. Why is past so important? I think Nora deserves to have better life as a independent women.
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Post by ginayang on Dec 15, 2012 7:30:37 GMT -5
Even though Torvald had wronged me, I would not have left my family because I do not want my children to cry and suffer because of me. I would rather go through the pain and suffering of living with Torvald than let my kids grow without a loving mother. My happiness is not as important as my children's. Therefore, I would endure living with Torvald by not sleeping in the same bedroom as him, not talking to him unless it is absolutely necessary, and not obeying his orders. In the story, I think Nora was being too emotional and selfish by deciding to abandon her three young children without even saying good-bye.
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Post by julielu on Dec 16, 2012 7:08:46 GMT -5
I think Nora made a huge mistake for marrying Helmer. Helmer lived as a big man. Nora didn't understand what kind of life she wanted, she just married to him. When she realized that the life wasn't the one she wanted, she packed up and left. I think this was extreme absurd. She came to the lives of Helmer and her kids for several years. She left in one night when she felt unhappy. If I also made a mistake of marrying Helmer, I wouldn't leave Helmer. I already had the responsibility to take care the whole family.
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Post by delmanykkfs on Dec 16, 2012 7:32:59 GMT -5
Not sure what i am going to do if i was Nora... I think i will try my best to stay with Torvald since nothing is more important than my family. I will try my best to deal with Torvald and ask him to forgive me if i have to. I think leaving family might be the best choice since she found out that Trovald did not really love her, but i think she has to feel some sort of responsibility for her family too since she has children. I personally feel very bad for Nora.... She was my favorite character by the way.
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Post by RegXD on Dec 16, 2012 8:48:23 GMT -5
If i were Nora, i would leave the family because based from the play when Nora buys anything Torvald always comment her actions. which i dont really care but i care is that he will question the action she makes. i really cant stand it when i buy stuff you question or comment my bad of my action ... i dislike it.
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Post by cesar on Dec 16, 2012 8:54:36 GMT -5
I think that any opinion I can have towards this wouldn't be the same for the fact that I am a 21th century man ( or boy, or child. Not trying to sound mature or anything). I mean its really easy to say that I would do the same thing Nora did and leave everything I know and live my life as I please. But its easy to say that in my position and I know for a fact that what I say now would change if I were a 19th century woman. With all that said though, I do think that I would do the same thing Nora did and with less hesitation .
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Post by sujeonggg on Dec 17, 2012 6:10:35 GMT -5
I would not leave myfamily too. Just like Nora, I think I am also very dependent on others and I don't have that courage to live by myself. I don't know if I would think the same when I get older, but I know it will be so hard to decide to live by young woman herself. Though there are many successful women in these days, I still believe that it's hard to live all by herself; especially leaving their family in the middle of their lives is way harder. So I think I won't just leave my family all of sudden.
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Post by juliekim on Dec 19, 2012 22:53:02 GMT -5
I would've left Torvald way before she did in the play. I don't think I would've wanted to marry him in the first place. I think I would want to take my children with me though. They deserve better than to live with that kind of guy. They're going to end up really messed up and I wouldn't want that, no matter how much I hate my husband. I know it'd be really really hard for me to live by myself, or even with my children, but Mrs. Linde did that so why can't I? She found out ways to work and earn money herself, so I think I can do that too.
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