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Post by sarahlee4 on Feb 11, 2013 7:05:51 GMT -5
If I were to be Hamlet's dad, I woudn't have wanted him to avenge me because either way, I'm dead. Killing the one who killed me wont bring me back alive. I think it was pretty messed up that he was being really selfish. I wouldnt want my sons life to be messed up in orer to avenge me.
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Post by sang on Feb 12, 2013 8:59:25 GMT -5
That's an excellent point. I totally agree with you, to try to imagine Hamlet's father's shoes, I don't think that driving Hamlet insane to cause family feud is a brilliant idea. I think that this is the fantasy/fictional aspect of the story, because no matter what the situation, the father would generally always try to do what's best for their kid/kids. So, it's only irational that he would haunt Hamlet to kill his uncle. But yeah, that's an awesome point that u pointed out there, I didn't really catch that until you said it.
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Post by minchoi0923 on Feb 12, 2013 13:58:47 GMT -5
It's so obvious that Hamlet's father wanted his son to revenge because he kept of repeating the word revenge to Hamlet until he left. However, I think this is very irresponsible and selfish for him to do that. I mean, it is tragic that he got killed by his own brother or something but he is bothering his own son. If he had not told Hamlet, Hamlet could have just moved on and lived comfortably with his new step father;Claudius seemed to be nice to him. So I think it was very wrong for the king to do that to Hamlet.
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Post by minjaeyang on Feb 13, 2013 3:21:15 GMT -5
Personally, i think King wanted Hamlet to revenge on his killer. Since the king lost everything including his power and his life, he probably wanted whoever that killed him to be unhappy as well. However if I were in a situation like the king's, I would not want my child to suffer. Most of us would agree that parents these days would want their child to be happy no matter what.
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Post by delmanykkfs on Feb 16, 2013 5:26:14 GMT -5
If was the ghost I'd tell Hamlet to saty with plan and tell him to kill the king Claudius so he can kill the person that stole his wife... Just kidding I'd probaly tell him to forgot about the revenge because is not worth it put his self in risk to kill the King, we know the end of the story and we know that the story doesn't end well for both Hamlet and Claudius because of the consequences of the revenge. I think as a father I'd give the example and tell my son to keep living his life and forgot about the all problems that he's facing.
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Post by joon on Feb 17, 2013 3:39:48 GMT -5
I agree that what King Hamlet did is cruel for making his son suffer by making him avenge King Hamlet's death. However, I think what Sageda said could be a possibility as well. Maybe the King wants to teach Hamlet the value of justice by making him kill his father's murderer. Or maybe the King knew that Claudius had to be stopped because he was going to be a horrible tyrant. Even still, I wouldn't tell my son to do ruin his life and health avenging my death.
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Post by yerin0727 on Feb 19, 2013 21:00:20 GMT -5
I guess that as a parent, I would also have hid the fact that my brother killed me. I would not tell my children because I would not want them to get convicted of crimes, trying to avenge for my death. In most cases it would be better for the children to know how or why their parents got murdered. However, in some cases, it would be better off for the reason to remain unknown.
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Post by davidh on Feb 22, 2013 9:23:58 GMT -5
Well I agree and because of this reason, I think he is imagining all of this In his own head. If I were hamlet's father, I wouldn't say anything about revenge towards My brother and especially to my son
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Post by sarahlee2 on Mar 7, 2013 9:49:35 GMT -5
I think it was really selfish of the old king to ask that of Hamlet, his son. They are a Christian family and how can you ask your son to commit a sin for your own benefit? I would understand if the king came back to tell Hamlet about what had happened to inform him, but I don't think he should have told Hamlet to kill Claudius. First of all, it is a sin for them to murder. And second of all, it puts Hamlet in a confusing situation when he just had to deal with his dad's death. It is especially detrimental to Hamlet because he is just a teenager.
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Post by julielu on Mar 14, 2013 2:08:01 GMT -5
hello
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Post by sojounggg on Mar 17, 2013 10:41:10 GMT -5
the ghost king should not have told hamelt about the king cludius hamlet could have lived ina better life. hamlet could have konw about it when he die and meet his father
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Post by rebeccahan0613 on Mar 17, 2013 12:20:39 GMT -5
I think King Hamlet is a horrible dad because I would never encourage my kid to avenge my death, especially involving any murder. What kind of parent who truly cares for his/her kid would encourage such a thing? If Hamlet is lucky enough to live after he avenges his father's death, he would still have to live with the guilt. I think King Hamlet is just very self-centered and ignorant of his kid's interal and external struggles in life.
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Post by anica on Mar 17, 2013 21:13:39 GMT -5
In the position of a father, first of all, I wouldn't want my son to avenge for my death all his life, because the tension between King Claudius and King Hamlet is just between them. I mean, the tension doesn't have to be carried out throughout the next generation.
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Post by sojounggg on Mar 19, 2013 21:49:44 GMT -5
i am a dead king in this friday's trial. i had chane to think of ghost once more. he might be a devil. the ghost is only coming out at night and night means evil. also he puts whisper in hamlet ears and it pained him in my opinion the ghost is not a realfather of hamlet
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Post by stormy44 on Mar 20, 2013 0:29:50 GMT -5
I think the king wanted his son to kill Claudius. Even though he's a righteous father, he wouldn't be able to get over the fact that he got killed by his own brother. And knowing that his son Hamlet is the only one that would listen to him, I think he actually told Hamlet about the murder and his plans for revenge. But later in Gertrude's chamber, Hamlet says that he can see the dead king while the queen cannot. I think this was the point where Hamlet's madness got serious and took over.
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