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Post by sang on Sept 4, 2012 9:35:43 GMT -5
So, as we know in the story, Gilgamesh goes on a journey in search of immortality and when he finds his ancestor Utanipishtam, he fails the task but still gets a chance to at least go back to youth by finding the flower plant at the bottom of the sea. However, soon after he gets the flower, he ends up losing it to the serpent that snatches it out of your hand.
Essentially, I think that this is a great failure. He sacrificed so much to achieve his goal but in the end, he ended up not getting what he wanted. We went over that he was satisfied with his kingdom lasting a long time.
But still, have you ever tried, invested, and gave your best and failed miserably? How did that make you feel? Did you end up accepting what you already had and being satisfied in the end like Gilgamesh?
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Post by sang on Sept 4, 2012 9:42:59 GMT -5
While living in the U.S., I took a really hard geometry course, which was honors advanced geometry, the highest level. At first, I thought that I could handle it but I soon realized that I could not.. and though in the end, I kept studying everyday, woke up early to talk to the teacher, and asked my friends for help, I still got an unsatisfying grade. After seeing it, I realized that math was not my area of expertise and just accepted my fate,,kinda like Gilgamesh I guess.
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Post by sang on Sept 4, 2012 9:43:19 GMT -5
So, that's how it kinda works Delmany.. hope u see this! haha
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Post by davidh on Sept 5, 2012 5:44:41 GMT -5
This was definitely my case.... bad memories..... Well i guess even though people tried and fail miserably, it may give them some kind of lesson like they show work different ways to succeed or maybe try other things to be successful. I definitely had this case because I was frustrated with my GPA when I was in freshman year. I had like 2.6 or 2.7... and I even though I tried, the teacher wouldn't give me good grades... So I guess this school was not for me and than I move to Kent. In here I actually did quite well.
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Post by minjaeyang on Sept 7, 2012 21:52:53 GMT -5
For me last year I studied very hard and invested much time and effort into a biology test in school, but I ended up getting a disappointing grade. I was very upset and discouraged at first but as time passed I began to accept the result for what it was and began to prepare for the next test with great determination to do better. I think the failure of the first test stimulated me to work harder, and I could receive a better grade in the next test.
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Post by sageda on Sept 8, 2012 5:46:21 GMT -5
I feel the same way about math. I invest so much time and effort, and the best I end up with is a B. Now I've grown up with this phobia with anything math. It just reminds me of my failure and that I can never really beat it. Math sucks.
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Post by juliekim on Sept 8, 2012 6:12:45 GMT -5
Personally, I don't agree that his journey was a failure or a waste of time. Even though he didn't earn what he intended to earn, he gained something much more important and valuable than immortality. The same goes with failures in our lives. At that moment, we don't think that there are advantages to experiencing failure because it feels like crap. But as time passes, we realize that it was those experiences that helped us to become a better person.
I remember my first year of volleyball, when I first started to learn it. I tried my best, but it obviously didn't work because we didn't win a game that season. I really really hate losing, and that whole season was just about losing. But now when I think back, I'm glad I had those times because it makes me appreciate my team right now and enjoy the time I spend playing with them.
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Post by alexkoo on Sept 8, 2012 8:21:11 GMT -5
Without reasonable outcome, it doesn't matter how hard one tried and suffered for their goal. Some may say that even though one failed, we should value his effort. However, if he didn't reach his goal he basically wasted his time. I have felt this last year. No matter how hard i tried for chemistry My maximum grade was C. SO, instead of trying so hard, i relaxed and enjoyed my life. As a result, I barely got C and i was more than happy with that outcome.
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Post by jessicashim2013 on Sept 8, 2012 22:59:49 GMT -5
We probably all have those experiences. Two years ago in my algebra2 class, I was almost failing. When Mr.Andy came to teach us for the rest of the semester, I started to study hard cause I had some hope to get at least a B. I remember that we were learning about inverse and graphing. I studied so hard to get an A on that quiz but I got a D.. I studied the day before and woke up at 4 in the morning to study but my grade did not show my effort. I was depressed but I found out that it was my fault for not looking on the quiz we had before. So I guess I didn't put 100% effort on it.
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Post by ginayang on Sept 9, 2012 1:34:28 GMT -5
Yes, I think we've all had those times that we try our best but we just can't improve. I received ballet lessons for seven or eight years. However, I was worse at ballet than people who started ballet much later than I did. I even took lessons in the summer for five days per week while everyone else didn't. Yet I was still the worst dancer in the class. It made me feel like a failure but I ended up accepting that I'm a horrible ballet dancer. And I found out I'm much better at hip hop dancing.
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Post by sarahlee4 on Sept 9, 2012 6:04:18 GMT -5
I believe that no one can ever waste their time failng at something because unless youre being a couch potato doing absolutely nothing but wasting your time, youre not wasting your time. I think that with failure comes lessons learned. People learn from their mistakes. Thats how we are made to be. We arent perfect so I guess this shows the human side of Gilgamesh. For me, I think its when i feel like ive dissapointed my parents. For some reason i think theyre dissapointed by me a lot these days and I honestly try to satisfy them but it just doesnt work. It makes me feel bad because i feel like im not being a good daughter but from their whiny criticism and long lectures, i actually learn a lot about life from them. Ive always thought that their criticism toward me was a waste of hearing for my ears,,,,if that makes sense...lol but yeah...because i thought i could be listening to something much prettier than their voices, but now thinking back, I actually learned a lot from them.
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Post by RegXD on Sept 9, 2012 7:10:10 GMT -5
I agree without sang idea on the math subject. sometimes you just have to accept it without question or any emotions. last year i took chemistry and my grade was C all the way till i finish 11 grade. during that period, i told myself that science isn't my major and isn't my subject or my strength to study. so i just gave up trying to Ace's it and just relax and maintain the grade.
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Post by jinseong on Sept 9, 2012 7:11:18 GMT -5
I don't think there were not much times I invested much efforts and failed. I think I just failed because I did not invest and dedicated enough to achieve my goals.
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Post by sarahlee2 on Sept 9, 2012 7:31:00 GMT -5
I don't think Gilgamesh failed miserably in his journey. I mean like he didn't get the immortality he wanted but in the end he was satisfied and found immortality in his own way. Anyways, yeah there are many times where I've failed or didn't achieve my goal to the fullest. It feels bad when you know you've failed but in the end I just accepted it and moved on with my life. You can't really do anything else about it.
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Post by hafizh on Sept 9, 2012 7:53:21 GMT -5
i've experienced failure a lot of times, but then i realized if theres always a lesson that could be taken from the failures that ive experienced. so its true, maybe at the beginning i was really dissapointed with myself or sometime i could even blame God cause its really unfair. but overtime i will understand why it happened. Its not how many times you fall thats matter, but its how many times you get up and things that you could take from your failures.
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