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Post by stormy44 on Sept 21, 2012 22:46:57 GMT -5
It's interesting to see how the gods are depicted in Gilgamesh and the story of Noah. The gods in Gilgamesh made mistakes, regretting their deciding of the flood. The Hebrew God, on the other hand, shows grief but remains supreme. Even though the overall stories are similar to each other, the details are sometimes contradicting.
Which story's god is closer to your ideal god? In my perspective, Noah's God is what comes to my mind when I think of it. I do not imagine gods making mistakes and having flaws; it would be weird for me to praise a god who shows traits of weaknesses. How can I trust him when he's just as flawed as me? So yeah what do you guys think?
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Post by jessicashim2013 on Sept 22, 2012 10:21:41 GMT -5
The ideal god would be Noah's God like Stormy mentioned. But I like the god in Gilgamesh better even though they have some flaws. They feel more friendly for having some human parts. God in Genesis knows that he is perfect and he wants to be the only God to control everything. He seems to have no mercy. Yes, he does save Noah and his family but he kicks out Adam and Eve. They were innocent. They didn't want to have power to control things or anythings. I think he was afraid that they would be like him, then he would no longer be the only special God.Since God could do anything he could have take there power of being like him and teach them to listen to him. In addition, I didn't like how God made men rule women because Adam also chose to eat the fruit himself.
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Post by cathysjun on Sept 22, 2012 22:21:13 GMT -5
I agree with both of you. I usually vision a god as a person who is perfect unlike us; the perfection distinguishes gods from us. I personally believe the perfection is what makes gods supreme and above us. Thus I do agree that my ideal god is closer to the Hebrew gods. Although they might express their emotions such as grief, they still remain supreme.
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Post by hanbikang on Sept 22, 2012 23:16:45 GMT -5
I am pretty sensitive of saying what is write and what is wrong because i personally don't believe in God. However if i had to believe and if i do then i would say the God in Gilgamesh is more likely to be than the God in Noah. Because i am a human and i have this human thoughts i want to think that God's actually make mistakes and have feeling and emotions to control the humans.
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Post by sojounggg on Sept 23, 2012 0:14:21 GMT -5
i am feeling closer to the god from gilgamesh because when i think of god i imagine as a human with god power i think of god equally as us therefore the god who regrets of their mistake made me feel no anger at him
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Post by michellelee on Sept 23, 2012 0:23:51 GMT -5
I think my ideal god would be more like the one in the story of Noah. I have been imagining the ideal god to be perfect all the time and like cathy said, that is what distinguishes god from us. Also I feel like the god is portrayed with the image of a flawless being most of the times. Therefore, I believe the ideal god would be Noah's God.
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Post by seongrae on Sept 23, 2012 2:34:50 GMT -5
I believe god is a person who is different from us and perfect. So perfection is a characteristic that god has that make people to respect and worship. So connecting to the two stories, I think Hebrew gods are the gods that I might believe, because even though Hebrew gods shows emotion of grief, at the end they were supreme. So I believe that as they are perfect, even though they show emotion of grief, they had a right decision which might be the reason that made them to stay supreme.
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Post by anica on Sept 23, 2012 2:51:06 GMT -5
Well my ideal of a God is a human with supernatural powers. It's human nature for people to make mistakes and I also consider this to hold true with gods as well. Therefore, I believe that Gilgamesh is my notion of the perfect god. Gods are generally perceived as flawless and without making any mistakes. However, Gods are part of human beings as well.
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Post by hafizh on Sept 23, 2012 4:21:50 GMT -5
just like you stormy, I also believe in Noah's God. im sorry, maybe its gonna be controversial hahaa. but Noah's God is my God, Noah is one of the 25 Prophets in Islam. The story was kind of different from the Bible, but still hehe its pretty similar.
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Post by julielu on Sept 23, 2012 4:48:01 GMT -5
Ra, the sun god. I don't believe god. But I believe sun. Because of I could see it, feel it and there really it is. If sun has a nickname called Ra, let it be then.
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Post by ginayang on Sept 23, 2012 5:22:04 GMT -5
My ideal god is the Hebrew God in the story of Noah. For me, a god is supposed to be all-knowing, not human-like, and loving. The gods in the story of Gilgamesh didn't really think about the consequences before destroying the whole Earth. So they greatly regretted killing all of the humans. On the other hand, Noah's God did not show regret about flooding the world because he knew he made the right decision. Plus, God expressed his love for Noah by protecting him.
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Post by cesar on Sept 23, 2012 6:13:45 GMT -5
I don't think any of them would be close to an ideal God I would have watching over the entire species. I don't want this to get controversial so im just going to answer the question. Both Gods did mistakes that obliterated 99% of the species in the earth and only those on board the ark survived. I don't think Id want a god that allowed both of those things to happen. If I had to choose a God that I would follow it would be a god that wouldn't make a mistake like that.
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Post by minchoi0923 on Sept 23, 2012 6:16:32 GMT -5
The gods from the epic of Gilgamesh do seem more friendly and I feel closer to them because I can connect to their emotions, mistakes, and etc. But my ideal God would be closer to the image of Hebrew God. I believe that God should be the one whom I can rely on for full protection and I can talk to whenever I need some courage. Based on what I've read, the Mesopotamian Gods seem emotional and make decisions based on their moods; they take actions without thinking about the consequences. I don't think I can rely on those kind of gods. I might sound selfish but I don't want to risk my life following those gods from Gilgamesh. Hebrew God, on the other hand, I can totally be dependent on him with no concerns because I know that he is omniscient and he can protect me. Therefore, the Hebrew God is way closer to my ideal god.
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Post by franicaza95 on Sept 23, 2012 7:05:16 GMT -5
i believe that the most ideal god for me is Noah's god beccause like stormy mentioned we tend to folllow and obviously believe that our god is one that shows superiority and strength and not one that shows weakness and repents things that does.
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Post by RegXD on Sept 23, 2012 7:40:02 GMT -5
um ... i am not a religious person but i think hercules the story, movie, or whatever is where i got the idea of how god should be. because it always end with a happy ending ^_^ so i think gods are happy people and always end happily.
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