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Post by jessicashim2013 on Dec 2, 2012 7:30:38 GMT -5
During Nora and Mrs. Linde's conversation they talk about how their life was. Mrs. Linde said that her husband died three years ago and he left nothing for her-no children, no money,not even any sorrow or grief for his death. In the beginning of the conversation Nora saids that she would not talk about her own affairs but she starts to talk about her husband on how he became a manager of the bank.
I thought that she was really immature and being rude to her although Mrs. Linde said that she did not love him and he died few years ago. She didn't mean to be rude but just what she did was not..right. What do you guys think? Was Nora being rude to her friend?
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Post by RegXD on Dec 2, 2012 7:35:45 GMT -5
Well from the conversation i can see that Nora's brain and mentality is still a child but her physical body is a woman. So i guess she didnt know that she was being rude to her. And based on how her husband treats her, i think that she is has no mistake on her actions on asking Ms. Linde about her husband. So my answer would be no.
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Post by hannahs on Dec 2, 2012 7:49:33 GMT -5
I don't think that she was being necessarily rude to her friend but she was a bit insensitive. But as we discussed in class, if Nora and Mrs. Linde were really close friends, Mrs. Linde would have been happy to hear that Nora was doing well. I think it would have actually made Mrs. Linde feel better that someone she cares about is happy and doing good. I guess they were just catching up although Nora could have maybe told Mrs. Linde about everything in a way that made it seem like she wasn't bragging.
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Post by sarahlee4 on Dec 2, 2012 7:57:52 GMT -5
I dont think Nora was being rude! Yeah i guess she was being really senseless and whatnot but that doesnt mean she was being rude. I think for me personally, just because Im going through hard times, doesnt mean my friend should filter out telling me what good is happening in his/her life. Its nice to hear that your friend is doing good and is happy. I definitely dont want my friend to be sad because Im sad.
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Post by elijahlee on Dec 2, 2012 9:31:43 GMT -5
I think that Nora was being rude. But, I don't think that she was purposely being rude. She is just mentally undeveloped and childish. She did not know how to filter her happiness while her friend is suffering. It would have been much smarter to keep her happiness on the down low.
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Post by davidh on Dec 2, 2012 9:42:17 GMT -5
I think it all depends on people's point of view and Nora's own. She might have different purpose of saying this or she really is stupid to say those things. I think these two would be main discussion. For me, I agree with you jessica. She kind of is..... yea
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Post by sujeonggg on Dec 2, 2012 21:00:47 GMT -5
I don't think Nora was necessarily rude. I think her immature and inexperienced characteristics made her to just blurt out what she wanted to ask. And as we discussed in class, Mrs. Linde and Nora were so close friends that they can even ask that kind of questions without being rude. I agree with this, because even though they haven't seen each other for so long, they seemed pretty close friends who can share both good/bad stories about themselves.
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Post by sarahlee2 on Dec 3, 2012 3:20:38 GMT -5
I don't think Nora was being rude but she's really ignorant and really insensitive. I don't think she knows when she should talk or not talk in certain situations. So I guess you can't really blame her for being rude because she didn't mean it. I think if I was Mrs. Linde I would be kind of offended and jealous because it seemed like Nora was bragging about all the good things happening to her.
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Post by stormy44 on Dec 3, 2012 8:01:24 GMT -5
She just doesn't think it through when she's talking.. I think Nora's just stupid not rude. She obviously knew that talking about herself wasn't the right thing to do when she had were widow friend visit her in ten years. But Nora still started to talk about her husband's promotion and her family's status. Like Sarah said, I think "ignorant" is the right word here.
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Post by yerin0727 on Dec 5, 2012 23:25:29 GMT -5
I also think that Nora was being rude to Mrs. Linde. Her usual personality is depicted as immature and thoughtless and therefore, she may have forgotten to think before she said all those things to Mrs. Linde. Although she is said to be one of her close friends, I think that especially in the old days, people had to keep their words even to their best friends. By talking about his husband's job in that much detail, it is as if she has revealed her own family affairs, which is such an inappropriate thing for her to do.
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Post by anica on Dec 7, 2012 2:06:12 GMT -5
Well Nora is mentally "young" so I would say she was kind of rude, but that she couldn't help it because of her immaturity.
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Post by juliekim on Dec 7, 2012 7:16:00 GMT -5
I don't think she was conscious of the fact that she was being rude, but objectively speaking, she shouldn't have said that right after she said she shouldn't be talking about her own affairs. I guess it's hard to call it "rude" in a relationship between friends. But I wouldn't want a friend like that. Even though I'd try to be happy for her good news, I'd still think she's trying to rub it in my face or something. It wouldn't feel good. I think she should have tried to be more sensitive towards Mrs. Linde's feeling. She might have been trying to cheer her up, but if I were Mrs. Linde I wouldn't be.
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Post by julielu on Dec 8, 2012 5:56:05 GMT -5
I think there was a character transition of Nora after Helmer read Krogstad's letter. Nora was sympathetic, sincere and optimism at the beginning. But she was also vanity. She was willing to be a doll and was content with the status. Nora would like to show up her life to the others but she didn't try to hurt anyone. She talked about her life a lot because Mrs.Linde asked so.
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Post by edward08 on Dec 8, 2012 21:12:28 GMT -5
In a modern society i would say that she was being rude, eventhough it has been a long time the husband died, nora should not have took a word out. It is disrespectful. Also she was childish in the beginning of the story
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Post by sojounggg on Dec 9, 2012 4:16:49 GMT -5
She was not being jrude at all.
In my pinion i tell everythiing to my friend.
we share our stories.
I know that nora is kind of self focused persone but she know what is rude and polite.
she would not have taled about her marriage lifeto christing if she not so close enough to her.
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